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how can i use vocational rehab to do a master when i am a veteran

by Rigoberto Hahn Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago

Are VA vocational rehab counselors telling disabled veterans no longer approve graduate degrees?

Apr 16, 2020 · The VA Voc rehab is designed to help get you back into the workforce. This includes job training, special employment accommodations, resume help, and job-seeking coaching. It can also help you start your own business or assist independent living services for disabled veterans who cannot find work.

Why do so many veterans fight with VA vocational rehabilitation?

Jun 15, 2020 · To elect the GI Bill rate, the Veteran must have remaining eligibility for the Post-9/11 GI Bill, and must formally choose (or “elect”) the GI Bill rate. Your VRC can help you with election. Veterans participating in the VR&E Program who elect the Post-9/11 rate are paid at the 100% rate level for their school and training time, even if ...

Can a veteran get a graduate degree through Chapter 31 voc rehab?

Sep 24, 2010 · Lie #2 - You cannot use Vocational Rehabilitation if you are Individually Unemployable (IU). Truth – According to the training module, veterans with a 100 percent disability rating can and do use...

When to exit a vocational rehabilitation program as a veteran?

Nov 22, 2010 · Fatal Issue #1: Both of these disabled veterans point blank told the Voc Rehab counselor they wanted to go back to school [insert favorite …

Will VA Voc Rehab pay for a PhD?

The cap is around $25,000 per year for tuition. However, Voc Rehab can lift the limit with the necessary approvals. If the veteran can create a good enough case for lifting the limit, then the veteran will be well on their way to a PhD.Feb 26, 2013

Does Voc Rehab affect VA disability?

This veteran has a rating that is static meaning VA believes the rating or ratings will not change in the future. Generally, any kind of employment or use of Voc Rehab for training will not result in a disability rating reduction.Apr 11, 2018

What is the VA Chapter 31?

Vocational Rehabilitation (Chapter 31) provides assistance to veterans who have a service-connected disability of at least 10 percent and are in need of vocational rehabilitation.

What is a Chapter 33 veteran?

The Post-9/11 GI Bill (Chapter 33) helps you pay for school or job training. If you've served on active duty after September 10, 2001, you may qualify for the Post-9/11 GI Bill (Chapter 33). Find out if you can get this education benefit.Feb 11, 2022

What is the VA 5 year rule?

The five-year rule states that the VA can't reduce a veteran's disability that's been in place for five years, unless the condition improved overtime on a sustained basis. The veteran will likely need to present medical evidence to prove the material improvement of their condition.6 days ago

Can I use voc rehab twice?

And before you ask, you cannot use your GI Bill and voc rehab benefits simultaneously. You can, however, use both for the same degree. For example, if you pursue a two-year MBA, you may use Chapter 31 Benefits your first year. Then, you may use Chapter 33 benefits again your second year.Apr 16, 2020

What is VA Chapter 35?

VA's Survivors' and Dependents' Educational Assistance (Chapter 35) program provides education and training opportunities to eligible dependents and survivors of certain Veterans.

Does Chapter 31 take away from Chapter 33?

No, policy has determined Ch. 31 services do not deduct from Ch. 33 benefits.

What can I use Chapter 31 for?

It is referred to as the Chapter 31 program. It assists entitled Veterans with service-connected disabilities and an employment handicap to prepare for, find, and maintain a job. It also helps entitled transitioning Servicemembers.

What is the difference between Chapter 31 and 33?

Chapter 31: Vocational Rehabilitation & Employment®: veterans who have at least a 10% disability rating are eligible to apply; however, approval is not guaranteed; up to 48 months of entitlement possible. Chapter 33: Post-9/11 GI Bill®: active duty and veterans may be eligible for up to 36 months of benefit.

Can you use Chapter 33 and Chapter 35 at the same time?

Can I use CH 35 and CH 33 at the same time? The VA does not allow students to utilize both CH 35 - DEA and CH 33 - Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits during the same term.

Can a veteran use Chapter 35 benefits?

If you're a dependent spouse or child—or the surviving spouse or child—of a Veteran, you may qualify for Chapter 35 benefits or job training through a GI Bill program.Mar 29, 2022

Why The Dubious Voc Rehab Counselor Statements

The most obvious reason is that counselors are culturally indoctrinated early on to treat is taxpayer money as if it were their own money.

Questions Asked

The live Q&A from veterans starts at 17:30. We address the following paraphrased questions from veterans:

What is a vocational evaluation?

A complete evaluation to determine your abilities, skills, and interests for employment. Professional or vocational counseling and rehabilitation planning for employment services. Employment services such as job training, resume development, and other work-readiness support. Help finding and keeping a job, including the use ...

How long can you get a VR&E if you lost your housing?

If you’re participating in a VR&E employment program and lost your housing because of a natural or other disaster, you may qualify for 2 more months of the Employment Adjustment Allowance. Contact your VRC for more information. Last updated: June 8, 2021. Back to top.

What does it mean to have a handicap?

Having an employment handicap means your service-connected disability limits your ability to prepare for, obtain, and maintain suitable employment ( a job that doesn’t make your disability worse, is stable, and matches your abilities, aptitudes, and interests).

How long do you have to file for disability benefits before you leave active duty?

Benefits Delivery at Discharge (BDD): If you have an illness or injury that you believe was caused—or made worse—by your active-duty service, you can file a claim for disability benefits through the BDD program 180 to 90 days before you leave active duty.

Can I get GI Bill if I am on VR&E?

If you’re participating in a VR&E program and also qualify for Post-9/11 GI Bill benefits, you can choose to get paid the GI Bill subsistence rate instead of the Chapter 31 subsistence allowance rate. In most cases the GI Bill rate is higher.

Can you get employment if you are disabled?

If you're a service member or Veteran and have a disability that was caused—or made worse—by your active-duty service and that limits your ability to work or prevents you from working, you may be able to get employment support or services to help you live as independently as possible.

How long can a veteran use their educational benefits?

1. I assume the veteran has used 48 months of educational benefits. This point is significant because veterans can only use up to 48 months of combined educational benefits in most situations. The primary exception comes into play if the veteran has a higher disability rating.

What is a serious employment handicap?

These are terms of art and are defined within 38 CFR Part 21.50-52. The latter, “Serious Employment Handicap,” will allow the counselor to extend the veteran’s training beyond 48 months.

Can you change your long term goal with a voc rehab counselor?

It can be difficult to change your long-term goal, which depends in great part on his Voc Rehab counselor’s willingness to fight for your case. He will need to convince Voc Rehab that the decision to add additional training for a PhD is a worthwhile cause.

Can a veteran get a PhD?

In this situation, the veteran is in better shape because he already has been approved for the goal. In today’s market , getting a PhD to teach at a university is a must.

Can you get a PhD with Voc Rehab?

However, Voc Rehab can lift the limit with the necessary approvals. If the veteran can create a good enough case for lifting the limit, then the veteran will be well on their way to a PhD. Another alternative could be to get accepted at a higher ranked university where the PhD programs are free. If the university is ranked within ...

What is the VA hotline?

The Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) has founded a National Call Center for Homeless Veterans hotline to ensure that homeless Veterans or Veterans at-risk for homelessness have free, 24/7 access to trained counselors.

What is the book of Q?

This Book of Q is believed by many scholars to be the first written gospel that contained many of the quotes and anecdotes of Jesus’ time on Earth.

Can you use vocational rehabilitation if you are unemployable?

Lie #2 - You cannot use Vocational Rehabilitation if you are Individually Unemployable (IU). Truth – According to the training module, veterans with a 100 percent disability rating can and do use VR&E for retraining purposes to obtain jobs, if possible.

Do veterans with high disability ratings fail to complete their training?

Lie #1 - Veterans with high disability ratings usually fail to complete their training. Truth – The survey states that veterans with a higher disability rating also have a higher likelihood of successfully completing their program.

Do veterans fight for vocational rehabilitation?

Many veterans fight with VA Vocational Rehabilitation. Sometimes it takes veterans years before we figure out that program administrators are straight up lying to us. Sometimes they lie to avoid work. Sometimes they lie out of principle (e.g. Voc Rehab does not pay for graduate school.) about what the program can do for any veteran.

What does the E in VR&E mean?

The “E” in VR&E stands for Employment, not Education. The veterans unfortunately told the counselor they wanted additional schooling and not skills to find work, right off the bat. Like Pandora’s box, once the intent of your application is stated, it’s hard to shut that door to an inevitable denial.

Is 60,000 a success in the first year?

It’s all about how you present the facts. A business grossing $60,000 in its first year may or may not be a success. Plus, a one-year success does not mean he will have success in the future. Regardless, claiming you’re God’s gift to the business community is probably not the best approach.

Do I need to get training to become an attorney?

Let’s say you want to teach at a college. You need to tell the counselor you want entry-level employment as a college professor. Yes, both of these goals require more schooling.

What does a counselor count on when meeting with them?

Counselors will count on the following when you first meet with them: You may or may not have read their website. All non-DVA websites promote "bad or inaccurate information". Their website is "clunky and confusing" (on purpose)

Who is Benjamin Krause?

Benjamin Krause is an award winning investigative journalist, attorney, and disabled veteran of the US Air Force, where he served in its Special Operations Command. He wrote his guide, the Voc Rehab Survival Guide for Veterans, after winning his long fight for benefits against VA to help other veterans do the same.

Can a veteran get a graduate degree?

Truth: A veteran can obtain a graduate level education through Chapter 31 Voc Rehab, period. There are many Board of Appeals claims you can find online where the veteran won his or her claim requesting payment of a graduate degree. It happens, just not that often. There, that’s enough to get things moving.

Can veterans get degrees from VA?

The above Benefits Guide touted by the VA above gives no mention of the types of degrees a veteran can obtain. During most initial meetings with Voc Rehab Counselors, veterans are told what types of degrees they can obtain. As a general rule of thumb, the counselor will steer them in a direction the counselor feels the most comfortable with, not always what the veteran wants.

How do I get these benefits?

First, you’ll need to apply for VR&E benefits. Then, you’ll work with your Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor (VRC). If you’ve received your VA disability rating, you can apply online right now.

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can a vet apply and get accepted to voc rehab more than once

I wanted to know if a vet can apply a second time for voc rehab. the first time .

i agree with Ilyanir

i am on my second go around, first school i attended was for commercial diving. and it wasn't a good fit for me. this time around, i am going back to school to brush up on my rusty welding skills and get the WABO welding cert for washington.

Is a program goal educational?

This program goal is NEVER educational, it is employment related. The objectives to reach the program goal may be education or training related. Many times the need for higher education is straight-forward and found in the job description.

Do you need a masters degree to work in rehab?

If your "employment goal" requires a masters degree in your location, such as a Physician Assistant (M) or CLINICAL social worker (M) or CLINICAL psychologist (PhD) etc, then yes but it depends on your knowledge of the regulations/laws government voc rehab. What is your "employment goal?"

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